Elmer's Brother

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2008/1/31

Proof Positive that Dugg is gay

@ 06:48 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)

I knew it was just a matter of time before Dugg's logic caught up to him.

 

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  1. I'm new here. What is this all about?

    Comment by Larry— 2008/01/31 @ 07:22 AM — (Reply)

  2. Hiya Elma just popped into say hello. What is happening with bloghi! any idea?

    Comment by Jean-sweet pea— 2008/01/31 @ 07:57 AM — (Reply)

  3. Hi Jean

    are you referring to the recent deleting of certain blogs by bloghi?

    Larry,

    I'm okay with Dugg being gay, this is an example of his logic. Click on the link and you'll see what I mean.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/01/31 @ 08:26 AM — (Reply)

  4. Elmer uses links and pictures but if you use a video that makes it impossible for him to refute you - then there's something wrong with using video. That's Elmer's logic. He doesn't understand that the video's aren't produced by youtube - only compiled. You got a problem with FOX, CNN? There on youtube - must be fake.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/31 @ 09:35 AM — (Reply)

  5. dugg this video wasn't made at youtube and youtube never lies...neither does alex jones or larry gunderson

    Comment by — 2008/01/31 @ 10:10 AM — (Reply)

  6. impossible to refute you? I used the NYT to refute you

    Comment by elmersbrother@yahoo.com— 2008/01/31 @ 10:11 AM — (Reply)

  7. hey dugg ask anyone but a relative or alex jones who's been schooling who?

    videos on youtube never lie, are always true...their sources are infallible

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/01/31 @ 10:15 AM — (Reply)

  8. Hey dugg I love how you challenge me to answer you and then ban me...you're such a grownup man

    dodge every issue?? you've failed to answer any of my challenges and I've trashed your so called "proof"
    the only thing left to do was to make it simple for you and point out the fallacy of your arguments and the poor quality of your sources with this video

    NIIceeee video man

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/01/31 @ 10:53 AM — (Reply)

  9. dugg said:

    I'll repost my previous answer - and then everyone can see what an asshole Elmer actually is. Watch the video if you haven't and you'll know the deal.

    you weren't convinving the first time so why should this make a difference

    Yeah. I tried to be polite cause he acts like he'll cry if I call someone a dumbass - and then he proceeds to call me a liar, nut and fag - despite the fact I have NEVER called him names and only wanted a real conversation.

    It wasn't me that was offended...if you had any reading comprehension skills you'd see that I didn't ask you to stop once

    and as I recall reading on the Ron Paul bloghi website you were the first one to call someone a fag...you accused one person of sucking on Obama's dick

    so you've only got back what you've given


    He never answered the question, either. I showed him that he backs the viewpoint of traitors and he can't deny it so like a cornered animal he started throwing insults.


    One reason why I used the video is because of this really weird logic you have:

    EB didn't answer me = therefore he has no answer and supports whatever it is I'm against

    Get out of Jr. High - Dugg

    I've taken you to school on the vast majority of the silliness that you post

    I've asked you questions all week about the s*it you write...have you made any attempt to explain them?

    and trying to reason with you is like reasoning with my daughter when she was 2...


    Why exactly would I want him on my page? As you can see, he forces his way in where he's not wanted any way.

    Did you ever say go away? On the contrary you've asked me to provide and answer to all of the silliness you post and now you say that I wasn't invited? hmmm let's put some quotes from dugg up just so we can see what a hypocrite he is

    Were you able to catch this one, Elmer?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/29 @ 01:25 PM — (Reply)

    This is the scariest real conspiracy going - cause it's about to happen! Can't refute this one, huh, Elmer? I thought all the conspiracies were kooky lies?
    Guess what? Knowing what you now know after watching this video - if you vote for anyone but Ron Paul, you are nothing less than a Benedict Arnold. Think about it. It's very true. You're either with the rEVOLution - or your a traitor who backs the CFR's vision of a NAU.
    Be a big enough man to admit when you're wrong, be a real patriot, and start spreading the word before your beloved country is gone.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/29 @ 07:42 PM — (Reply)

    What I wonder is if Elmer is a smaller man than I gave him credit for?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/29 @ 09:45 PM — (Reply)

    Yeah, wonder why? He hasn't been ignoring my other thread all night.

    One last thing, Elmer, RP being the one candidate who's not CFR controlled - does that answer your question as to why he gets blacked out of the controlled media? You don't think I can find 1000 articles about it on the internet but nobody at FOX or ABC or wherever knows about it, right? Uh, huh. The media is an accomplice in murdering our country.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/29 @ 10:53 PM — (Reply)

    Where else have the results been published?

    You're a slow learner there, Elmo. The controlled zionist media has determined that the good Dr. doesn't suit their best interests. They aren't gonna show anything about him. They're blacking him out. He came in 2nd in Lousiana and his campaign is officially contesting the results and saying they won. How come you haven't heard that on FOX, Elmer? Not news? Doesn't merit mentioning?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/29 @ 01:41 AM — (Reply)


    More of Dugg's logic:

    Ron Paul wins straw polls but lacks any real votes at the ballot box = Gigantic Jewish media cabal is controlling what we get to see and hear

    I'll keep asking EB to answer me = ban him so he can't

    I think I've only met one other person on this planet with logic skills like that - (john brown)

    Trust me dugg you need a new calculator


    See the big "L" on your forehead Dugg. Everybody else does.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/01/31 @ 12:07 PM — (Reply)

  10. Holy Toledo !!



    :shock: :shock: Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/01/31 @ 12:17 PM — (Reply)

  11. more of Dugg's hypocrisy in context

    No Name is the limo driver who gave Obombu a BJ

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/26 @ 12:28 PM — (Reply)


    Didn't you say you used to be Obombu's limo driver?
    Who was pitchin and who was catchin?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/26 @ 04:58 PM — (Reply)

    Bush is an admitted skull and bones member who attends bohemian grove. That may tend to make some of us smarter people view other things Bushitler does with a little more suspicion. RP on the other hand has 25 years of spotless service to America. I'm not a hypocrite - you're a reaching, baiting, douche bag.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/26 @ 04:52 PM — (Reply)


    Ps
    I don't like to be addressed by pussies too limp wristed to even leave a fake name. From now on I refuse to answer any of your ridiculous claims posted anonymously.
    As I've said on here 1000 times - I write like I BS with someone at the bar or somethin'. When I call you a douche bag - I'm saying it with a smile on my face. If you can't take it - move down a few barstools and fuck off.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/26 @ 05:09 PM — (Reply)



    The whole time the person having this discussion with you was polite and civil yet you attacked them?

    If it walks like a duck?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/01/31 @ 01:03 PM — (Reply)

  12. :lol: Damn, I'm funny.

    Taking 20 different posts and using them to try and defend your position on a seperate post, eh?

    I only banned you because you were calling me a liar and a fag when I was trying to have an honest debate. What would anyone reasonable expect?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/31 @ 01:19 PM — (Reply)

  13. hey dugg check out that flying fuck.the dik acted like a kid when his friends thought i was calling them all that like he called me this thing is now and should have always been forgotten so check him out now he's calling you gay.make up your mind elmer boy what are you going to block me too.

    Comment by HARRY G.— 2008/02/02 @ 08:53 AM — (Reply)

  14. That's not very much Mos.

    :twisted: Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/02 @ 11:59 AM — (Reply)

  15. no, sticking up for my friends is, mos

    Comment by HARRY G.— 2008/02/02 @ 12:45 PM — (Reply)

  16. dugg it shows a pattern and makes absolute sense to show what you've said over a period of time...how much easier to show a pattern vice a one time abberation

    Honest debate? Is that what you call the discussion you had about Ron Paul? That's why I put it up here..you weren't interesed in an honest debate you name called the poor sucker who was trying to have an "honest" debate with you.
    You called that person a fag....hello...see the inconsistency, the hypocrisy... HONEST DEBATE MY AS*...that's what makes you a liar too.

    Nothing is funnier than you challenging me to answer you and then not allowing it...."L"

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/01/31 @ 02:24 PM — (Reply)

  17. Elmer read my post above and then your reply below it. It's like your on ludes. Can you read?
    I talk about what you called me and you bring up a post where I was talking to someone else and what i said to them - not you.
    Not to mention the post you quote me on was by a guy who was goading and baiting me relentlessly and using the name rpisafreemason. He had it coming.
    I tell you I only banned you because you were calling me a liar and a fag when I was trying to have an honest debate. What would anyone reasonable expect? And you reply - Nothing is funnier than you challenging me to answer you and then not allowing it...."L" ???????????????? You were right back on my site defying my ban and not answering shit. Elmo, you have no fucking answer!!!!! I've asked you a dozen times now. Do you think if you just keep saying you schooled me it will make it reality? You're fucking delusional. Lets try it one more time. Do you support the CFR? If you say no then how do you justify supporting anyone but Ron Paul? You have no fucking answer do you gnatwit? Please give me one - any one so I can tear it to shreds and school you yet again.


    I tried to politely debate YOU. You didn't like what I was saying and called me a liar and a nut. I showed you that the documents in question were on the CFR's own website and showed you a youtube video that had the quotes in it. You proceeded to say i was an idiot who believed everything on youtube and called me a fag. You had NO answer to anything whatsoever except to try and slander me in every way imaginable. An honorable man might have disagreed and backed up why or had the balls to say he was wrong and apologize. You, on the other hand, well, - you didn't do either of those things. I'm really tired of talking to you now and defending myself against your slander. Either leave me alone or face all out blog war.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/31 @ 05:40 PM — (Reply)

  18. eb your such a whinning hypocrite

    Comment by HARRY G.— 2008/02/02 @ 01:12 PM — (Reply)

  19. i've been hearing about this dugg all about the blogosphere for some time now, and i've just been trying to chock it up to being some sort of conspiracy.

    sure hope i'm right.

    you wouldn't even believe the things they're saying, elbro - frankly, i'm shocked AND appalled.

    Comment by nanc— 2008/01/31 @ 05:02 PM — (Reply)

  20. dugg you didn't have to be talking to me for someone to see the pattern in your process...I realize you're frustrated because I've kicked your ass...

    When you answer some of my questions I'll think about tackling the one about the CFR that you've posed but because your credibility is shot I see no reason to continue to waste my superior debating skills on someone who can't recognize the distinctions in his actions

    but I don't think you will

    your jr. high debating tactics go like this

    Dugg posts...no one answers = must be true

    here's my logic on all this *hit you post

    Dugg posts = I'm sick of answering his dumbs*it posts

    You don't even have the courage of your convictions

    Do you still use a phone?

    You still use the internet.

    It seems you were about to vote for a free mason. You've said in the past that free masons are not Christians.

    Hypocrite.

    One of my last comments about the slander piece on the FBI I explained how it happened. There was 6 months time frame between the actual bombing and the time that the FBI had an informant that could tell them when it was going to happen.

    So to summarize, a group that was being funded, and only just at that, from various Iranian and Egyptian sources started to build a bomb. One of their group became an FBI informant and was paid to supervise the progress and report what was happening. A plan was hatched to raid the apartment and substitute the explosives the group had with fake stuff, but after it leaked to the group it was cancelled, and the informant was deemed unreliable, so was cut off and since he wasn't being paid any longer stopped informing. Subsequently the bomb was finished in a unknown location, and set off at the WTC. 6 months after having cut him off, and being proven horribly wrong (through hindsight) the FBI rehired the informant, but three weeks in they were still paying silly buggers with his funding which started to place the new investigation he was informing for into jeopardy. As a result he taped the conversations and made it clear that he was worried that this operation was going the same way as the last, resulting in the FBI finally paying up and giving him money that when all totalled up with what he'd already been paid came to 1.5 million dollars.

    Did I miss anything?

    What we have here is a total cock-up by the FBI because they didn't trust an informant and decided that he was just ripping them off and passing on bogus info, then being proven wrong in the worst possible way. Apart from their being a bunch of incompetent ignoramuses that should have been fired, how exactly did the FBI actually help the bombers other then not believing Salem that they were a real threat?


    Did you attempt to refute that?

    You use a known liar (Larry Gunderson), who wasn't even in the FBI at the time of the bombing, who had people wrongfully accused of ritual child abuse as a source and you want me to believe you? Sorry Bub.

    So dugg merrily goes along slandering the FBI, characterizing them like they killed our own people on purpose and purposely leaving out a timeline because it suits his conspiracy theories.

    So you lied and you get slandered back. Now you get pissed and ban me.

    See how it feels.

    You don't have an answer for me...this is why you got pissed and banned me. You're frustrated plain and simple. It's obvious in the way you're talking to me.

    As far as leaving you alone...that's fine...if that's the way you want it.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 12:15 AM — (Reply)

  21. said in the past that free masons are not Christians.

    lie. Show me.

    Do you still use a phone?

    You still use the internet

    WTF does this have to do with anything?

    about to vote for a free mason

    More lies. Unproven. You base this on a photo of a handshake.

    One of my last comments about the slander piece on the FBI I explained how it happened.

    God. What an idiot. The fbi is caught on tape admitting it, Elmo. CBS news and the NYT reported it - and I proved it.

    Larry Gunderson

    Okay. I was wrong about him. I, unlike you, am man enough to admit when I may have made a mistake. You can throw him out of the whole arguement. It doesn't change anything, does it? The documents still exist on their official website. All the presidential candidates except RP are members.

    Can I have an answer now, Elmo? Or are you still trying to figure out what to say?



    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 03:28 AM — (Reply)

  22. I showed you that the documents in question were on the CFR's own website and showed you a youtube video that had the quotes in it. You proceeded to say i was an idiot who believed everything on youtube and called me a fag. You had NO answer to anything whatsoever except to try and slander me in every way imaginable

    Ever think that I was trying to give you what you wanted, ignoring you..

    How on the one hand can you say

    "You don't have an answer for me EB (ban me even if I wanted to answer).... and on the other hand

    say

    "Leave me alone...

    Somehow your logic defies reason.

    Do I think you're really gay? Did I post the video because you're really gay?

    What do you think?

    I did it to show you the fallacy of your arguments. How you're hurting good people who work hard to protect this country.

    It's not my job to prove you wrong...the way it works Dugg is you have enough information, links, videos..whatever that will cause people to either accept what you say or not. You're sources have come up wanting over and over again. So why should I or anyone else believe you? and proving something by a negative??? well again it's Jr. High debate team all over again

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 12:26 AM — (Reply)

  23. I was asking you questions and asking for a reply and when i came back to my blog you had called me a fag so i banned you. This makes me a hypocrite? You're delusional.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 03:33 AM — (Reply)

  24. and I don't have time for someone who calls our men and women in uniform baby killers.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 12:29 AM — (Reply)

  25. and I don't have time for someone who calls our men and women in uniform baby killers.

    Please show me where I said this or anything like it, Elmo. You're just like Bush. Keep lying until the lie has been repeated so many times that it is believed as true.

    You're a joke, Elmo. A bad one.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 03:31 AM — (Reply)

  26. Let's be precise here dugg please tell me where I called you a fag?

    gay can mean happy too.

    Are you unhappy?

    Please show me where I said this or anything like it, Elmo.

    Okay dugg you asked for it
    Iraq War Veterans Say Killing Iraqi Civilians is "Unofficial Policy"

    Hey, Elmer - you're a fag! One who supports murder! You should be so proud of our soldiers... going over there and killing innocent people so the fat warpigs you admire so much can get richer.

    Hey Dugg - I served in Iraq, there was no such policy as the youtube video you posted. Who are these guys? What are their names? Are their comrades corroborating what they say? If it's true why hasn't the main stream media picked up on it?

    I'm surprised you don't see the fallacy of your own arguments dugg?

    you say you want to just have a civil discussion but you totally trashed that other guy for no reason.

    And people like elmeo will be waving their NAU flags.


    It could be that we won't be here...ever heard of the rapture dugg?

    dugg's math again

    elmer hasn't commented on the NAU = he must be for it

    Really dugg I have not problem with you being gay and I don't think anyone else here cares either.

    I left you alone. Your turn.


    Comment by — 2008/02/01 @ 09:27 AM — (Reply)

  27. First off - taking someones own words that it was unofficial policy to kill civilians is a little different than calling people baby killers.
    2nd the video tells you about the confrence they are planning and all the details. You obviously didn't watch it to close.
    3rd I'M supposed to stop using the internet/phone whatever because MY rights are being violated and if I don't I'm a hypocrite????? You are a fucking moron.
    I'm done with you. You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to stupid and ignorant to be worth my time.
    Say whatever you want fag - I won't be listening.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 12:14 PM — (Reply)

  28. now now dugg no need to call me names, I never called you a fag and you know it

    you obviously are not convinced that what you say is true or you'd stop using your phone etc. for fear the government is listening in

    you have no conviction you're just an agitator

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 02:49 PM — (Reply)

  29. Hummmm, makes a good point.

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/01 @ 03:32 AM — (Reply)

  30. So ...Whats your opinion on how the Anti Christ will make his appearance ? The events leading up to ..I mean.

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/01 @ 03:34 AM — (Reply)

  31. I believe the world will have an economic collapse that will end American sovereignty and see us merged into a North American Union. Similar plans are underway for an Asian Union and South American Union. Once they are all combined into the NWO of one world - some seemingly peaceful and charismatic politician will step in and take control of it all.

    And people like elmeo will be waving their NAU flags.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 03:47 AM — (Reply)

  32. guess the Bible's wrong, huh, Brooke? No one world government or anti-christ politician, huh? Please roll your eyes and mock me - I can use the blessings.

    and now he's a theologian

    So you think free masons are Christians then dugg?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 11:06 AM — (Reply)

  33. You think you're the only one who ever read a Bible? As a matter of fact, Elmo, Freemasons don't claim to be a religion - just a little club - and they invite all faiths. So yeah, I think some misguided Christians might be Freemasons. I've talked to a few, even.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 12:08 PM — (Reply)

  34. So then it's okay if Ron Paul is a free mason? but not others?

    that's rich

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 02:49 PM — (Reply)

  35. Whats your take on the question... Elmer ???

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/01 @ 04:34 AM — (Reply)

  36. my take is that I don't overly concern myself with when that's up to God and no one knows 'when'

    as to who from where....not sure I know he's going to trick Israel into accepting a treaty and then break it half way through

    Aza...since Christ ascended my personal opinion is that too many Christians have concerned themselves with him coming back in their generation or during their time....and not preparing themselves enough for when THEY go to meet Him

    that's why I try to keep a short account with Him

    if He comes back soon...GREAT! I'm ready

    if He doesn't and I go to meet Him...GREAT! I'm ready


    Hence my motto:

    Paratus Ad Vitem Paratus Ad Mortis

    Prepared for Life

    Prepared for Death

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 11:17 AM — (Reply)

  37. Aza, it says no man knows when but it also says that the wise man will see the signs and know when the time is drawing near - while the majority go on like elmer pretending nothing is happening and trying to explain all the turmoil in the world away.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 12:22 PM — (Reply)

  38. OHHH ...I KNOW IT ..."I AM" ... THE 2ND PART OF THAT ... DREAM DREAMS ...THATS ME ..I'M A DREAMER ...THE ONES WHO LOOK FOR SIGNS ...SHALL IN NO WAY FIND ONE ... THATS DIFINITELY NOT ME TO LOOK FOR SIGNS ..THEY ARE ALL ABOUT ...GOOD IS BEING CALLED EVIL ...AND EVIL ...IS BEING CALLED GOOD ... ASK ANY HOMO THEY WILL TELL YOU ..."I'M JUST WIRED THAT WAY" ...HAHAHA YEP ...THERE WIRED ALRIGHT ...HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/01 @ 12:44 PM — (Reply)

  39. Some would say " OH BUT AZA ..YOUR BEING JUDGMENTAL ... YA ..OK .. so guess what else that makes me ????? "HI .. MY NAME IS LOTT, and I LIVE IN A PLACE CALLED SODDAM AND GAMORAH". the funniest thing happened to me on the way to the "AUDITORIUM" today....

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/01 @ 12:49 PM — (Reply)

  40. uh dugg even if it was near what can you do to stop it if it is God's will?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 02:47 PM — (Reply)

  41. Who says I would want to? You can't stop rocknroll - or God's will - can ya?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 05:34 PM — (Reply)

  42. Whoo-boy.:roll:

    Comment by Brooke— 2008/02/01 @ 05:50 AM — (Reply)

  43. I guess the Bible's wrong, huh, Brooke? No one world government or anti-christ politician, huh? Please roll your eyes and mock me - I can use the blessings.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 07:08 AM — (Reply)

  44. Why don't they name the officers and provide the documents that support their claims?

    Oh I see they're gonna pull a John Kerry.

    Comment by elmers brother— 2008/02/01 @ 09:30 AM — (Reply)

  45. Do you still use a phone?

    You still use the internet

    WTF does this have to do with anything?


    Aren't you the one who is concerned about losing his right to privacy....claiming that they're already doing it? Yet you still continue to use a phone?

    hypocrite

    about to vote for a free mason

    So you're not voting for Ron Paul?

    More lies. Unproven. You base this on a photo of a handshake.

    99.9% of your posts are based on less than that

    God. What an idiot. The fbi is caught on tape admitting it, Elmo. CBS news and the NYT reported it - and I proved it.

    Did you post the transcripts so we can make up our own mind?
    Did you bother to show the timeline which I so conveniently provided for you?

    CBS and NYT did not characterize the way you did...hello They both said that the FBI was not involved in any wrongdoing

    Larry Gunderson

    Okay. I was wrong about him. I, unlike you, am man enough to admit when I may have made a mistake. You can throw him out of the whole arguement. It doesn't change anything, does it? The documents still exist on their official website. All the presidential candidates except RP are members.

    Okay now we're getting somewhere


    Hey you were right about Haditha....hahahahahaha...you convicted those guys before trial..guess what?

    Comment by elmers brother— 2008/02/01 @ 09:49 AM — (Reply)

  46. That why I dont read that site....I joked around a bit...and whooaaahhh nelly the pit bull attack was on....so kinda like a bad radio station I "tuned " elswhere......riff

    Comment by riffran— 2008/02/01 @ 11:05 AM — (Reply)

  47. You're knewer to me and as I recall I was being ganged up on and the one dude kept changing his name on his blog. If I fired you up it was because you walked in on the middle of a fight and accidentally got hit. I didn't mean anything towards you. Sorry.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/01 @ 05:33 PM — (Reply)

  48. That was very civil, and informative...apology accepted.....and if I offended I also apologize....riff

    Comment by riffran— 2008/02/02 @ 02:01 AM — (Reply)

  49. are you talking about dugg's site riff?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 11:10 AM — (Reply)

  50. Dugg why haven't those three men turned themselves in for war crimes?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 11:21 AM — (Reply)

  51. I geuss...the one with all the conspiracy theory on it...had a different name though....at least I think its the same source....if Im wrong I apologize....but that site was "adversarial" if you had a dissenting opinion....riff

    Comment by riffran— 2008/02/01 @ 11:32 AM — (Reply)

  52. it's the same author and yeah he is adversarial...which is part of my point

    he claims to want an honest debate and when you challenge him on his source or his logic he gets all pissy

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 11:38 AM — (Reply)

  53. uh dugg this was the last thing you posted

    I've got to get into an altered state of conscience to channel my next writing.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/01/28 @ 11:29 AM — (Reply)


    in response to this

    So to summarize, a group that was being funded, and only just at that, from various Iranian and Egyptian sources started to build a bomb. One of their group became an FBI informant and was paid to supervise the progress and report what was happening. A plan was hatched to raid the apartment and substitute the explosives the group had with fake stuff, but after it leaked to the group it was cancelled, and the informant was deemed unreliable, so was cut off and since he wasn't being paid any longer stopped informing. Subsequently the bomb was finished in a unknown location, and set off at the WTC. 6 months after having cut him off, and being proven horribly wrong (through hindsight) the FBI rehired the informant, but three weeks in they were still paying silly buggers with his funding which started to place the new investigation he was informing for into jeopardy. As a result he taped the conversations and made it clear that he was worried that this operation was going the same way as the last, resulting in the FBI finally paying up and giving him money that when all totalled up with what he'd already been paid came to 1.5 million dollars.

    Did I miss anything?

    What we have here is a total cock-up by the FBI because they didn't trust an informant and decided that he was just ripping them off and passing on bogus info, then being proven wrong in the worst possible way. Apart from their being a bunch of incompetent ignoramuses that should have been fired, how exactly did the FBI actually help the bombers other then not believing Salem that they were a real threat?


    Sorry I don't see a refutation to this anywhere in the comments section

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/01 @ 11:51 AM — (Reply)

  54. I liked the "PROMO" left u a message ...A.

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/01 @ 12:55 PM — (Reply)

  55. Sounds like Aza has been persuaded by your logic Elmer. You didn't bribe him, did you?

    Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/01 @ 05:09 PM — (Reply)

  56. There is no reason for anything other than civilized dialogue Riff. Don't pay those who are uncivil no nevermind.

    Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/01 @ 05:35 PM — (Reply)

  57. Hey Dugg....please paste in your address and I will mail you a Blackberry with GPS. That way I can track you in the event THEY are too busy.

    Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/01 @ 05:39 PM — (Reply)

  58. YOUR HONOR, I'VE KNOWN DUGG FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. HE HAS 4 KIDS ! I DOUBT HE IS ! AT ALL THE LEAST GAY OF ANYONE AMOUNG US!

    Comment by jim— 2008/02/02 @ 01:21 PM — (Reply)

  59. Can I be banned? Can I? Can I?:roll::?:
    Was Ron Paul in charge of the UN Bombing also?

    Comment by kermit— 2008/02/04 @ 06:30 AM — (Reply)

  60. uh besides the fact that dugg and I appear to have reconciled I'm not sure why I would ban anyone?

    Comment by elmers brother — 2008/02/02 @ 01:54 PM — (Reply)

  61. KOOL ...

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/02 @ 02:34 PM — (Reply)

  62. why would I want to ban you kermit? How's Ms. Piggy?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/04 @ 06:37 AM — (Reply)

  63. :mrgreen:Well, you know. She's got her hands full with a half dozen little pig-poles and three tad-lets runnin around. Hey did you notice that only 3 % of the free masons voted for ron paul?

    Comment by Kermit— 2008/02/06 @ 11:07 AM — (Reply)

  64. was it that many?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/06 @ 11:59 AM — (Reply)

  65. Can you believe only 3% aren't retarded in this country? I thought it was at least 5%... Obvious massive vote fraud. The whole thing is a sham.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/06 @ 12:05 PM — (Reply)

  66. and JFK was killed by someone other than Lee Harvey Owald..tell us something we don't know Dugg....

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/06 @ 12:07 PM — (Reply)

  67. Are you telling me your the one guy who still believes the JFK lies? No wonder you can't get a handle on 911... Dude, even the History channel and other controlled MSM news sources admit the whole JFK story was a lie. Didn't you ever see "The Men Who Killed Kennedy"?
    Check out the video I just posted showing the computer programmer who made the vote fraud program testifying in court - - - - - - It's all fixed and it's proven. In this election not one state hasn't had vote fraud claims.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/06 @ 12:24 PM — (Reply)

  68. So that's how R. Paul got his three votes... He tampered with the voting programs. And I thought he just had lame followers

    Comment by J Q Public— 2008/02/06 @ 12:58 PM — (Reply)

  69. and the Queen of Englans is the anti-Christ

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/06 @ 12:26 PM — (Reply)

  70. It's clear Dugg that you diatribe regarding R:lol::lol:P over the last few months has been a complete waste of time. Hopefully nothing caused you to stop kicking your dog.

    :lol::eek::lol: Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/06 @ 01:39 PM — (Reply)

  71. I hope Obama is elected, Ed - I'll remind you that you supported him at every opportunity.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/06 @ 02:35 PM — (Reply)

  72. Not a problem. Even you will be inspired again about American with Obama in the White House. Go ahead...don't be jaded....give yourself something wonderful to hope for. You sure aren't going to get it with Hillary and you knew from the git go you weren't going to get it from R:roll::roll:P.

    Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/06 @ 02:48 PM — (Reply)

  73. We're fuckin doomed.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/06 @ 02:59 PM — (Reply)

  74. When Obama starts attacking Pakistan and Iran it will be such a big change from Bush. Things will feel so different. And when more of the world hates us and drops our $ - it will be a big change allright. Right into the NAU and a third world country. Thanks CFR puppet, Obama, for the change.
    It's like a nightmare were everyone is insane.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/06 @ 03:03 PM — (Reply)

  75. Oh please. Are you drunk?

    :roll: Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/06 @ 03:11 PM — (Reply)

  76. I'm DRUNK... AND MADE IT INTO A "video" WHILE i WAS "grillin" ...BWAHAHAHAHA ...i TRIED TO POST IT TO YOU TUBE BUT ITS DOWN ..

    Comment by aza spade— 2008/02/06 @ 03:14 PM — (Reply)

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