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when pigs fly!
how convenient this is for some people...
Comment by nanc— 2007/10/12 @ 02:45 PM — (Reply)
Comment by Burns— 2007/10/12 @ 04:56 PM — (Reply)
Wait for the fruit. If it is good, we will find out, look at Walid Shoebat. If it is rotten, we will know that soon enough too!
tmw
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The fruit is rotten, tmw. He's a hard-core stone-cold terrorist. And from what I hear from his Supermax detention, NOT CAPABLE OF BEING REFORMED.
He's the real deal fanatic.
Comment by Farmer John— 2007/10/15 @ 01:50 PM — (Reply)
I'm sure if he's really a convert, the other Islamic nuts will make a REAL martyr of him.
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It's basically a college fraternity
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It's BiLderburg and I'll admit they are scary. By the way, both political parties are well represented there but Wikepedia only sees fit to list Donald Rumsfeld as a member..cracked me up. John Edwards belongs, too, wonder why they don't list HIM, huh? Too funny.
When I have a right taken away, let me know.. so far, so good. The only rights I've had taken away as far as I can tell are from the left..my right to demand my little girl can go to the potty at school without having to worry about a 10 yr old boy who thinks he's suddenly transgender strolling in with the express consent of the California legislators. The right to not teach any 8 yr old girl who thinks she's a lesbian how to use a dental dam...the right to have my kids TAUGHT, not INDOCTRINATED, the right to have my kids taught America IS the best country on the planet, with all her warts and all. thanks. oH, I forgot...the right for kids to think their president's good no matter what our media misconstrues about him, and the right for kids not to have to hear only one side to global warming so they can stop waking up with nightmares that they're going to drown next year. I'd appreciate those rights back. And, if listening in on phone calls can help the Feds track a terrorist who'll kill Elmer, me, or our families, I'm for letting them listen to us all too. I have nothing to hide and these are different times.
Comment by Z— 2007/10/20 @ 08:04 AM — (Reply)
wow, damian - you're passionate!
everyone is a pawn and a means to the end. it doesn't mean we should stop hoping beyond hope that our president will do the right things in all matters.
yes, i feel gw has divorced this party and we're the scorned spouses. in the words of tmw GET OVER IT! do something to set conservatives right again.
Comment by nanc— 2007/10/17 @ 02:51 AM — (Reply)
....I DON'T LIKE RELIGIUS INTITUTIONS THAT IMPRISON OUR SOUL AND TELL US WHAT TO DO...CATOLIC, HUNDU, MUSLIM, JEW..IS THE SAME.....AND I TOLD U..I'M NOT A BUDHIST..I BEALIVE IN NIRVANA..STAGE THAT BUDDHA FOUND...MANY OTHER FIND NIRVANA IN MEDITATION AND THEY ARE NOT BUDDHIST...I DIN'T WANT TO BE A PART OF ANY RELIGION...CUZ WE ARE COZMOS..AND RELIGION DOESN'T NEED NO NAME........RELIGIONS ARE TEARING APART AND THEY ARE CAUSE FOR VIOLENCE , MANY TIMES......WHEN WE REALIZE THAT WE ARE IMORTAL PART OF COZMOS WE DON'T NEED NO RELIGION CUZ THEN WE DON'T BEALIVE, WE KNOW...AND SPIRIT DOESN'T NEED NO GOD....CUZ MY SPIRIT AND YOURSE..EVEN G.W's spirit is PART OF GOD OR WHATEVER U CALL IT...WE ALL HAVE SAME SOULS, REGARDING OF OUR RELIGION, BUT WE JUST FORGOTTEN
Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/04 @ 07:15 AM — (Reply)
...god is not a thing or a person, God is a process!!!...
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A notable practice within the university is that of the Secret Societies, Skull and Bones being the most famous (or infamous). Both George W. Bush and John Kerry, along with droves of other notable statesmen, politicians, and magnates of industry and finance. Other societies, some of which are entitled "honor societies" include Scroll and Key, Aurelian, Book and Snake, Berzelius, Manuscript, and St. Anthony's.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Aiga6QfAQg&NR=1 even jfk talked about illuminati..and he died...lincoln talked about freemasons and he died
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Christians believe they can't be good enough....try all you want to be good
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THEY ARE DECLARINNG WARS IN THE NAME OF GOD...THEY WANT US TO BEALIVE THAT GOD IS EADING THEM.....IT SAIS IN THE BOOK....WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE FLSE PROFITS..THEY WILL ACT IN GOD'S NAME..AND THEY ARE DOING THAT....KILLING IN THE NAME OF GOD....NOW LET THEM GO TO WA, BUT LEAVE GOD OUT OF IT...IT'S A INSULT TO HIM..AND EVERYBODY THAT SUPPORTS THIS GOVERNMENT OF KILLER IS MARKED WITH MARKING OF THE BEAST..AND GOD WOULD HARDLY ACCEPT HIM
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DOES GW BUSH RELIE ON THE HOLY SPIRIT?
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I don't know damjam why don't you ask him
shalana damjan is from slovenia....the ip tracker says so
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Comment by the shalana— 2007/10/18 @ 11:40 AM — (Reply)
Who is shalana damnjan?
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Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/10/20 @ 04:33 AM — (Reply)
um, elbro?
would you please make damjam stop yelling?
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Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/19 @ 06:04 AM — (Reply)
Are you an engineer?
Does Revelation mention the twin towers and 9/11?
I would also recommend Nova's program on 9/11 and Popular Mechanis debunking of this whole conspiracy nonsense. Go peeddle your wares concerning this issue somewhere else there damjan.
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Comment by Jean-sweet pea— 2007/10/19 @ 06:31 AM — (Reply)
elbro - this is a subliminal message...
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The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem when he helped Hitler kill Jews?
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Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/25 @ 08:20 AM — (Reply)
One of the myths regarding the Catholic Church that continues to be perpetuated is the myth that Pope Pius the 12th was in league with the Nazis during WW2. I found this short U tube that may help dispel the myth by presenting some facts, particularly weighty, because they are from Jews who lived during WW2.
Here's a little youtube video for you to watch.
Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/10/25 @ 09:36 AM — (Reply)
Pope Pius XII was a diplomat and not a radical preacher. He knew that he first needed to preserve Vatican neutrality so that Vatican City could be a refuge for war victims. The International Red Cross also remained neutral. Secondly, he knew how powerless he was against Hitler. Mussolini could quickly shut off electrical power to Vatican Radio during his broadcast (Lapide, p. 256). Finally the Nazis did not tolerate any protest and responded severely. As an example, the Catholic Archbishop of Utrecht in July 1942 protested in a pastoral letter against the Jewish persecutions in Holland. Immediately the Nazis rounded up as many Jews and Catholic non-Aryans as possible and deported them to death camps, including Blessed Edith Stein (Lapide, p. 246). Pius knew that every time he spoke out against Hitler, the Nazis could retaliate against the prisoners. His best attack against the Nazis was quiet diplomacy and behind-the-scenes action. According to The 1996 Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia (V8.01) under Pius XII, "Wishing to preserve Vatican neutrality, fearing reprisals, and realizing his impotence to stop the Holocaust, Pius nonetheless acted on an individual basis to save many Jews and others with church ransoms, documents, and asylum."
The charity and work of Pope Pius XII during World War II so impressed the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Israel Zolli, that in 1944 he was open to the grace of God which led him into the Catholic faith. As his baptismal name, he took the same one Pius had, Eugenio, as his own. Later Israel Eugenio Zolli wrote a book entitled, Why I Became a Catholic.
But Pope Pius XII was not completely silent either, especially in his Christmas messages. His 1941 and 1942 Christmas messages were both translated and published in The New York Times (Dec. 25, 1941, p. 20 & Dec. 25, 1942, p. 10). To prevent retaliation, he did not refer to Nazism by name, but people of that era still understood him, including the Nazis. According to The New York Times editorial on December 25, 1941 (Late Day edition, p. 24):
Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/10/25 @ 09:52 AM — (Reply)
Eugenio Pacelli was elected pope in 1939, took the name of Pius XII, and reigned for almost 20 years until his death in 1958. As the Vicar of Christ on earth and the successor of St. Peter, a Pope's principal job is to evangelize the world. God so loved the world that he sent his Only Begotten Son to save it from its sins: That is the good news the Church was formed to spread. The Holy Father is primarily a spiritual leader, but just as God became incarnate in Jesus, the Church is in the world, though not of it. Thus it is no small matter that the papacy of Pius XII took place during World War II and continued into the Cold War that grew up between the awkward Allies who had defeated Hitler and the Axis powers.
It is a simple fact that no political or religious leader emerged from World War II with a nobler and more heroic record than Pius XII. Vatican City is located in a country which had a fascist dictator, Mussolini, who eventually allied himself with Hitler. Mussolini's regime may have looked less menacing than Hitler's but it was totalitarian. When Mussolini was forced to resign in 1943, German troops rushed in to fill the vacuum, occupying Rome and surrounding the Vatican. These were the hostile circumstances in which Pius XII reigned until the liberation of Rome by Allied forces in 1944. Bombs actually dropped on Vatican City; whether they were German or American bombs was never clear.
The moral problems posed by an unlimited war, predicated on the unconditional surrender of Hitler, were huge--the bombing of cities, the blurring of any distinction between combatant and civilian, the violation of the most elementary precepts of natural law. Added to this were the dreadful racial policies of the Third Reich. Hitler was a satanic figure motivated by seething resentment of Germany's defeat in World War I, a dream of an Aryan people occupying the land mass of Europe for a thousand years. Standing athwart this goal--apart from the military might of the Allies--were two things: Christianity and the Jewish people.
Hitler declared war on the Church from the beginning.
He vowed to rid first Germany and then Europe of "inferior races," most notably the Jews.
The measures taken against German Jews prior to the outbreak of hostilities were a matter of public knowledge. The brain drain of Jewish intellectuals from Nazi Germany and Austria enriched the universities of Britain and the United States. The occupation of Austria and Czechoslovakia was supinely agreed to, but the invasion of Poland brought a declaration of war on Germany by Britain and, more reluctantly, France. World War II was on.
Nazi activities in occupied territories were more difficult to monitor than they had been in peacetime Germany. But the network of papal diplomats, and the presence of the Church throughout Europe, brought the incredible news to the Pope, and he both condemned what he characterized as the extermination of peoples and announced it to the world. Again and again and again.
The identification and condemnation of Nazi atrocities continued throughout the war. It was accompanied by efforts to protect the innocent victims of a diabolical regime. The Catholic Church, under the leadership of Pius XII, is credited with saving nearly a million Jews from certain death during the war. This is an achievement not even approached by other heroic efforts. It was gratefully acknowledged during and after the war by Jewish leaders who knew what the Pope had done.
Saving nearly 1 million Jews, glorious as this was, was only one of Pius XII's personal and pontifical achievements. Nonetheless, after his death, grumbling in the Church about his defense of the deposit of the faith against Modernist tendencies became more audible, and with the call for the Second Vatican Council, the pre-conciliar Church became the bete noire of liberal and progressive Catholics. It has been suggested that this was one of the disposing conditions for the success of an amazing assault on Pius XII that was launched in 1963.
The turning point was the play "The Deputy", by Rolf Hochhuth. In it, Pius XII is portrayed as the dark opposite of his historical self. Hochhuth's Pius XII is silent about the treatment of Jews, connives in their deportation from Rome and Italy, and might as well be the Nazi Hochhuth himself once was--Nazi youth at any rate. The play flies in the face of historical facts and represents a slanderous attack on a holy and heroic figure. Hochhuth wrote a similarly slanderous play about Winston Churchill, which received the treatment it deserved. But his defamation of Pius XII has passed from the realm of sick fantasy into that of received opinion. The latest contribution to the sorry genre inaugurated by Hochhuth is John Cornwell's "Hitler's Pope."
For more than three decades, historians have patiently shown that such portrayals of Pius XII are devoid of any historical basis. All the Vatican documents covering the period are now available in 12 volumes, but far from putting the matter to rest, there is a continuing buzz that the Vatican is hiding something and is engaged in an effort to save Pius XII from the truth about his papacy.
Pius XII was a good and holy man. He was a heroic defender and protector of Jews during World War II. The evidence for this truth is massive, the testimonies are many, the facts are unchangeable. All efforts to show the opposite have been conclusively refuted. The question is not whether Pius XII acted heroically during World War II and was instrumental in saving hundreds of thousands of Jews from Nazi extermination. The question is not whether libels and slanders against this good and holy man can be refuted. The overwhelming question that has to be addressed is this: Why is this good man being defamed? Who are those who devote themselves to besmirching the reputation of Pius XII? What are they really after? What is their fundamental objective?
The Didache taught that there are two paths, one of light, the other of darkness. John Paul II has spoken of a culture of death and a culture of life. During World War II, Pius XII courageously walked the path of life. The Nazis he condemned are no more. Their totalitarian twins, the Communists, have withered away. But the culture of death is still among us, stronger than before. Those who opposed Hitler now occupy countries which have espoused under other names his genetic atrocities. The moral relativism and nihilism of the West has permitted the culture of death to flourish, and it recognizes its main enemy. That enemy is the Catholic Church. Pius XII is merely a target of opportunity. The aim of his detractors is to destroy the natural law, which, as Pius emphasized from the beginning of the war, was violated by the Nazi racist policies. The culture of death is an equally systematical assault on the natural law of which the Catholic Church is the chief custodian. Hence the libel and defamation of the Church.
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Horas; Egypt
Horas was son of the virgin oziris..he was born at the same day as we celebrate xmass...his father was egiptian god of light...horas walked on water...performed miracles...he started working with 30 and he died on the cross with 33...after 3 days he ressurected and went to his father kingdom. In those 3 days the sun is standing still ...s they say that sun died and ressurected after 3 days
Hare Krishna; India
Son of the virgin mother, conceived by God...born on xmass..Krishna walked on watter...he fed tousands of people with few fishes....performed miracles....start working with 30 and died on the cross with 33...he ressurected after 3 days..same sun symbolic
Mythra; Greece
Virgin was his mother and he was born on 25 december like other sawyers...he turned watter into vine..performed miracles..start working with 30 and died on the cross with 33..he russurected after 3 days and went to his kingdome
Jesus; Nazaret
His mother was virgin..he was born on 25. dec...walked on water (sun walks on water()..performed miracles...star his work with 30 and died with 33 on the cross..3 days later he ressurected and went in hs fathers kingdome
NOW IT'S OBVIUS THAT THEY MIXED THE LIFE OF JESUS WITH PEGAN BEALIFS OF WORSHIPIN THE SUN...JESUS WAS NOTHING ELSE THEN PROPHET...BUT ROMANS WANTED TO CREATE ANOTHER INPRISON RELIGION SO THEY MIXED HIS LIFE AND ASTROLOGICAL PEGAN BEALIFS ABOUT THE MOVEMENT OF THE SUN...IT WAS AN INSULT FOR GOD AND JESUS..AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYIN THAT VATICAN IS THE DEVIL...U KNOW WHAT XMASS TREE IS ABOUT..PEGANS USE TO HANG THEIR ENEMIES HEADS ON THE TREES FOR THEIR ASTROLOGICAL GODS...AND XMASS TREE IS SYMBOLISE THIS BARBARIAN EVENT AND TO PUT SUCH A TREE INTO A CHURCH IS MORAL SIN AND MOCKING OF GOD
SINCE TIME OF HORAS THEY NEED MESSIAS WITH SAME ASTROLOGICAL STORIES AND THEY CREATING IT...JESUS US A DEPICTION OF THAT WAS HE REALY WAS...THEY PUT HIM ON THE CROSS SO THAT THEY CAN WORSHIP THEIR PEGAN SHIT....AND TO PUT HIM ON THE CROSS WAS ROMAN PLAN TO CREATE ANOTHER INPRISON RELIGION WITH THEIR OLD RELIGION WHICH IS LUCIFERIAN...NO WONDER THAT VATICAN LIES IN ROME...AND THE HOLY GRAIL THAT THEY GUARD IS EXACTLY THAT SECRET THAT5 I DESCRIBE TO YOU KNOW....READ A LIL' OF RELIGIUS HISTORY AND STUDY OTHER MESSIAS AND U WILL SEE...EVEN THE HAT THAT POPE WEARS IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS EGIPTIAN FARAONS WORE...(MOUTH OF THE FISH)...VATICAN IS A SATANS ANGEL..THEY MOCK JESUS AND THEY MOCK GOD BUT THE MASSES FOLLOW LIKE SHEEPS...BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY THE MN WITH AGENDA TO IMPRISON PEOPLE AND HIDE TRU MEANING OF JESUS..QOAN
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we all sin catholic, protestant ALL of us
the Bible says for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and that the wages of this sin is death
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Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/25 @ 07:27 PM — (Reply)
If you wish to compare Jesus and Islam go here It's the death cult.
Here's an answer to your supposed pagan origins of Christianity.
First of all, no one knows the true birthday of Jesus Christ. That information is not recorded in The Bible.
As you said Jesus is an historical person whose life is recorded by histroians outside of hte Bible...Josephus, Tacitus....etc.
As far as virgin birth etc. All foretold hundreds of years before he lived in the Old Testament.
Almost all scholars agree that this date was adopted
centuries later. To be more specific, Joseph Campbell notes that the date was adopted in 354 AD. Thus, the adoption of this date says NOTHING about the influences of Mithraism on the formation of the Gospel accounts.
Mithra was "born" by emerging from a rock with a dagger in one hand, a torch in the other hand, Phrygian cap on his head not of a "virgin."
"Mithra...was born beside a sacred stream beneath a sacred tree.
In works of art he is shown emerging as a naked child from the "Generative Rock," wearing his Phrygian cap, bearing a torch, and armed with a knife.....The earth has given birth - a virgin birth- to the archetypal Man."
No Christian borrowing from this myth about Mithra. In fact, one could say the true myth is the belief that Christians borrowed from Mithraism to write the nativity accounts.
Mithra was a pagan deity who was not born of a virgin (BTW, neither was he a dying and rising god). Yet this claim is often made by those critical of Christianity. When you hear such claims, be sure to ask for the source of the claim. Don't be satisfied with a popularistic
source. Ask for the original myth. If it is not offered, ask for the sources behind the popularistic source and check them out. Experience has taught me that, most of the time, the claim can be shown to be nothing more than someone's subjective interpretation.
For more on the pagen mystery thesis I suggest this.
I don't have time to answer your other nonsense.
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Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/26 @ 01:43 AM — (Reply)
Horas and Hare Krishna...
read the links and do some more homework damjan I don't have to go through your thoroughly unresearched diatribes point by point
it was easy enough to find the Mithra information....I'm sure your smart enough to figure out the rest
you'll never be good enough damjan that's a problem we all have
God says that all are good works are as filthy rags...no one is righteous...not one
Eph. 2:8,9...Titus 3:5-6 says that we are saved by God's grace not by our works or things we consider righteous but by his mercy
that's why we need Jesus
I'm not Catholic but I do understand what you mean by idols...your conspiracy theories can be an idol
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Comment by Ed— 2007/10/28 @ 04:24 AM — (Reply)
Damjan check this site out you'll see that Jesus cannot be compared to these mythological gods
Here's a snippet:
5) "They died, most of them through crucifixion" This is an outright lie, no credible source shows any of these being crucified.
None of the figures that he names died through crucifixion. Some of them became associated with the cross through pagan borrowing after the time of Christ, but in the pure mythical content of their stories none of them were crucified.
6) "They were Resurrected from the dead" this claim is true of some but not all, and even of those not in the manner of Christ.
None of them were seen by real flesh and blood eye witnesses after their deaths. In stories of Dionysos he does come back to life, but only in a mythology and only in relation to dying rising of nature cycles. see below. And not all of them came back to life.
BTW you must have ignored the links I posted because this link and it talks about both Horas and Krishna
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http://www.worldvision.com.au/wvconnect/Connect_Images/2003MERLINAZE01PAGE%20copy.gif
Comment by Ed— 2007/10/28 @ 07:00 AM — (Reply)
damjan you are full of shiite
you make no sense
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Besides not understanding half of what he says, using a collander for a hat and me shooting down every point he makes....he makes absolute sense.
LOL!
Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/10/28 @ 03:43 PM — (Reply)
I don't think the jackass can even muster a bark, just a pathetic whine.
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Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/29 @ 08:04 PM — (Reply)
If He is an historical figure what happened when he died?
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I'm not a scholar...but I didn't leave my brain at the door when I became a Christian
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More specifically here's some info on Krishna
Here's why just having similarities does not constitute "copy cat"
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"Finally, let all with such artfulness gain ascendance over princes, nobleman and the magistrates of every place that they may be ready at our back and call, even to sacrifice their nearest reltives and most intimate friends when we say it is for our interests and our advantage." - W. C. Brownlee, Secret Instructions of the Jesuits, American and foreign Christian Union, p. 47.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/28 @ 07:54 PM — (Reply)
The inquisition was the most horrible engine of cruelty and power the world has ever seen. The roman catolic institution from 1200 ad on had produced a total of 68 million victims.
The holy office which ran the Inquisition was run by zhe "dominican monks. But the misterminds behind them were the Jesuits.
Th hly office was a thing of terror whereever it reached...no one was safe.
Today the roman catolic institution is busy rewriting the history of the inquisition as a cover up. Books on the subject had quietly dissapeared from many libraries. IT IS ONE OF THE BEST KEPT SECRETS IN THE MODERN TIME.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/10/28 @ 08:03 PM — (Reply)
I won't defend the Inquisition (even though I believe your numbers are way off) and
I'm not Catholic so I don't need to defend the Catholic Church
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On July 8th, 1933, the year Hitler came to power in Germany, the Vatican signed an agreement (Concordat) with Hitler, by which the Nazi government promised to respect Roman Catolig rights, practices and institutions in Nazi Germany. In return the Vatican and the German Catholic clergy would support the authoritarian and nationalist stances ofthe Third Reich.
Historians believe this agreement helped end resistance to Hitler.
"The Nationa Government will regard it as first and foemost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been build. It regards Christianity (they mean wicked Catholicism) as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life -("My New Order", Adolf Hitler, Proclamation to the Catholic German Nation at Berlin, February 1, 1933)
1933: The Year Hitler comes to power The Vatican Signs a Concordat with Hitler, just like Mussolini in 1229, and Franco of Spain in 1931.
"Hitler, now in power, patterned his SS after the Jesuit Order. He used Roman Catholic Bavarian Himmler with his Jesuit uncle to carry out the plan.
Hitler declares: "I have learned most of all from the Jesuit Order. A good part of thet organization I have transported directly into my own party:"
The SS had been organized by Himmler according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. The rules of service and spiritual exercises prescribed by Ignatius de Loyola constituted a model which Hitler strove carefuly to copy.
"In Himmler I see our Ignatius de Loyola!" -Adolf Hitler
" I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits. Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party." -Adolf Hitler
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Turkey refuses people access to Ararat, the famed site of Noah’s Ark. Maybe there is something to it if they do not want the fact published that the Jewish Bible was correct in its passages concerning the Ark.
Along with the changing of this past, many Muslims believe that the Temple Mount is sacred to their faith. If Mohammed went to the Far Mosque, it certainly had to be located somewhere else. The Dome of The Rock was not even built until 60 years after Mohammed died. So the Dome of The Rock cannot be the place where Mohammed went, as there was no mosque in place there when he died. In fact, the expectation that it would become another Mecca or Medina fizzled out, and it went into disrepair less than 20 years after its completion.
Muslims never showed an interest in a Hadj to that place. It was not a Muslim holy place back then, and in my opinion is not one today as far as history is concerned. It has become nothing more than a rallying point for jihad, and a political bargaining chip. In fact, the Quran even says that Allah gave that area to the Jews. So by trying to take it away, they disobey their own god and prophet. They transgress their own holy book. Why would Mohammed claim that Jerusalem is holy, yet turn his back towards the city when he prayed? Muslims are fighting for something that their own prophet turned his back on. Interesting, isn’t it?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Man I'm sick of your lies, half truths and just plain stupidity.
Take a hike and talk about it on your own blog. I've had enough of your BS.
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You may continue to comment if you provide source material (I.e. links) to what you're talking about. Otherwise I don't find anything you've said so far to be credible.
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Damjan, do you actually live inside the rabbit hole, or just visit on weekends? Sounds like you desperately need some company. You should try going here. You'll find your soul mate there. Believe me, I should know... I'm a great matchmaker.
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Ooops. Sorry damjan, bad link. Here's the right one.
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I haven't heard such nonsense since I listened to the psycotic rant on about "powers and principalities". He had no idea what a power or a principality was but that didn't shut "him" up either.
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If only he was a psychotic, and not just another *sshole sniffing liberal loser.
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..HITLERS BOOK...my new order......HE RESPECTED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND HE DEFEND IT.........VATICAN WAS ALWAYS PROTECTED.......jesuit order is above all the secret societies and the Jesui Order and the Vatican are mostly responsible for the suffering in the world..if u research deeper everythibg is pointing to them....you'll find your evil 9 11 terrorist in Rome, not in Guatanamo bay....and hitlers book "MY NEW ORDER" is direct evidence tha Vatcan runs the show...he was a Nazi, but he mostly respected catholic church...he even looked up to them.......and Slovenia, the country I live in was in Yugoslavija..Slvenia is the only country in Yugoslavia that made in EU (and that's a shame.General Pavlovič did his own Inquisition in Serbia and Croatia in WW2...and I should know itcuz my graandfather fought in the War...Pavlovič was a friend of the papacy, and my grandpa fought for him...they would kill you if u didn't convert..and that was in 1949...so I know that the Papacy had a huge roll in the Holocaust..my grandpa was a War Hero and he died 2 years ago..he was in the Camps...and i'm raising my voice for those that are forced to be quiet
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let the piczures talk......but if u want the proof u must read the hutlers books (all of them) inquisition, catholic banking system...zionists in the vatican...an literature points to them
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on the other hand the stuff you're slinging....don't step in it
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the black helicopters denote your paranoia Damjan...not whether or not you are a terrorist
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satton - illuminati, 2 babylons, egypt - light of the world
albert pike's books, michael bradleys book...manhattan wrote few great books about Vatican...statements from prist rivera....i 'm not makin it up..if u ignore it , then u aprove it, and u aren't better from the sdatanists...without majority of people like you, they could never exists..
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