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2006/12/30

Goodbye Bozo

@ 03:36 PM (19 months, 20 hours ago)

This picture is from Az Zubayr and that is my newly shaven pate in the foreground. The Brits had taken the pictures of Saddam down and painted what I thought was a clown nose on the one portrait. Turns out in Britain there is a day called "red nose day" and that's why they painted his nose. Yesterday was the only good thing Saddam ever did.

 

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  1. Our British cousins can be a bit delirious. You're pate? Noogey time!
    Good morning and G*D bless y'alls New Year!

    tmw
    rasper

    Comment by the merry widow— 2006/12/31 @ 12:49 AM — (Reply)

  2. that is my newly shaven pate in the foreground


    And a beautiful pate it is!

    The red nose on Saddam is an improvement.


    Comment by Always On Watch— 2006/12/31 @ 03:49 AM — (Reply)

  3. Big head!..no wonder youre so smart!:razz:

    Comment by Angel— 2006/12/31 @ 05:21 AM — (Reply)

  4. tmw aow - the first couple of nights we were there it was very cold and as time wore on well it got hot...the haircut was so I could stay cooler

    angel - you should see how many radio stations I pick up with these ears

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2006/12/31 @ 05:41 AM — (Reply)

  5. Where is your pith helmet EB?

    Comment by Barry G.— 2007/01/01 @ 06:09 AM — (Reply)

  6. ROTFLMAO!!!! How funny! Hey EB, I didn't know you were in the military. Awesome! You need to get some rays on the pate though:>) God bless you and your family in 2007!

    Comment by Eyes— 2007/01/01 @ 05:57 AM — (Reply)

  7. Saddam could probably use some Sideshow Bob hair in that pic, too! :lol:

    Comment by Brooke— 2007/01/01 @ 06:54 AM — (Reply)

  8. Eyes - 20 years retired Navy - Jun 84 - Jun 04

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/01 @ 06:56 AM — (Reply)

  9. Jun 04?? were you present for the induction ceremonies for the MIDWAY jun'04 ???

    Comment by jim— 2007/01/02 @ 03:38 AM — (Reply)

  10. Cool:>)

    Comment by Eyes— 2007/01/01 @ 08:07 AM — (Reply)

  11. HAPPY NEW YEAR, ELBRO AND FAMILY!


    brave

    Comment by nanc— 2007/01/01 @ 10:27 AM — (Reply)

  12. she's baaaaaaaccckkkkkk!!!!

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/01 @ 11:35 AM — (Reply)

  13. Personally I think Saddam should have always used less lipstick.

    Comment by Barry G.— 2007/01/01 @ 11:37 AM — (Reply)

  14. hoping i'd get snowed in, eh elbro...???

    liking

    Comment by nanc— 2007/01/01 @ 05:05 PM — (Reply)

  15. Only if it meant you and nancpop got to see more fireworks

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/01 @ 06:10 PM — (Reply)

  16. it was tooooooooooo cold and windy for fireworks outside the house...so we had to take them inside!

    Comment by nanc— 2007/01/02 @ 03:10 AM — (Reply)

  17. jim - it's a museum now I believe in San Diego and it wasn't yet open to the public

    nanc - you're not gonna kiss and tell are you? I didn't think so.

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/02 @ 05:25 AM — (Reply)

  18. RIGHT...I took my dad there for the innaugural, He was A/S/S/R FROM 55-67. When he came home he was real messed up and lived w/PTSD for so long ...I got him his serv conn dis and that helped put him in a "RECOVERY" mode, So many of those guys lost the "WAR" not only "THERE' but at "HOME" also...I am in touch with several involved in the midway project that even now I have one guy from the "REFURB" shop waiting for me to get to S.D. this trip,which reminds me ......something has come up and I am going to have to go to Las Vegas first and put ARRIVACA on the "RETURN TRIP" from S.D. in a few day, here in Tucson right now just arrived......

    Comment by jim— 2007/01/02 @ 10:00 AM — (Reply)

  19. I wonder if these red-noses have any ties to the Mummers...

    Comment by Farmer John— 2007/01/02 @ 07:38 AM — (Reply)

  20. ah Tucson not far from me...your dad was in during Vietnam...is he still around?

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 10:08 AM — (Reply)

  21. ya BARELY did u get the bulletin from military.com ?? todays headline is how PTSD AND CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE ARE LINK??? guess which 1 I've got ?? "OH MY CHEST".......YES MY COUSIN IS HERE (HOMETOWN TUC)SHE IS PICKING US UP FOR A NIGHT OUT !!!!HHHUUUMMMM

    Comment by jim— 2007/01/02 @ 12:21 PM — (Reply)

  22. OH YA , I FORGOT IT WAS IN JUNE , I CALLED MY DAD AND TOLD HIM HIS SHIP HAD COME IN.....HE ASKED "WHAT".....SO I MADE A FEW CALLS AND BOOKED FLT,HTL,CAR AND OFF WE WENT, EVERYONE SAID I WOULD BE BRINGING HIM HOME IN A BOX BUT HEY WHAT A WAY 2 GO !!!!!!

    Comment by jim— 2007/01/02 @ 12:24 PM — (Reply)

  23. fj - they could be guisers.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 10:12 AM — (Reply)



  24. They created him and put him in power - then when it suited them - they killed him.

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 12:01 PM — (Reply)

  25. I see that one could "SUPPOSE' that were true but........when we needed HELP we turned to whoever could possible HELP ! Now the reasons for this are as follows: 1 when "POLITICIANS" engage in "DEPLOMACY" that "BULLSHIT HAPPENS" remeber this because it leads us to "MORE BULLSHIT" !! Thats just what happens when "GIRLIE MEN" ARE IN CONTROL !! WHEN BACK IN THE DAY RUSSIA WOULDNT TAKE ANY CRAP FROM ANYONE !! they had "RESPECT"!!! very important to remember this also !!! reason being WE are the SCURGE of the world , PRESENTLY because we are "girlie men" acting like we (the U.S.) are gaining respect for being "soft" but....in reality the world "RESPECTS' ruthless power, administered in such a way as to "CONTROL" world events and be the "WORLD OF EVENTS" so anytime some "p#*y politicians think we need a "SOFTER, GENTLER, KINDER " NATION MARK HIM FOR ASSASINATION "EXPEDITE' !!!!!

    Comment by jim— 2007/01/02 @ 01:18 PM — (Reply)

  26. Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 12:03 PM — (Reply)

  27. Woops - sorry -
    http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 12:04 PM — (Reply)

  28. hey dugg try some historical context next time will ya

    Iran takes control of our embassy (an act of war) for which Carter does jack and theocrats in Tehran set up a government

    then Iran and Iraq go to war and you tell me who we should support (btw all this was before the gassing of the kurds and the invasion of kuwait)

    next time read your history book dugg

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/02 @ 12:26 PM — (Reply)

  29. Who did Canada go help in the Iran/Iraq war? Why did we have to support anyone? Let them kill each other if they want to and just stay out of it. Its none of our buisness.

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 02:07 PM — (Reply)

  30. It was presumed that after Iraq began to benefit from and become reliant on US economic linkages, the United States would be able to induce Iraq to behave more in accordance with international norms.

    this is why I highlighted this section dugg.

    The other thing was that oil tankers were being targeted by both sides..and the world needed the oil to flow freely..the US wasn't the only ones supporting Saddam during this time

    Given the perceived importance of the outcome, third parties aligned with one or the other in hopes of influencing the fighting. Iran's principal ally was Syria, which used its military to periodically divert Iraqi forces from the Iranian front. Syrian President Hafez Assad also closed a key Iraqi pipeline to the Mediterranean that affected Saddam Hussein's income. Libya, China, and North Korea all sent weapons, particularly missiles, to Iran.

    The most unlikely country to support Iran was Israel, given that the revolutionary government had replaced the country's longstanding alliance with an obsessive and hostile anti-Zionism. Still, the Israelis did provide some arms to their Iranian enemies. Why?

    Two main reasons:

    One is that Israel often subscribes to the Middle East dictum, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," and Iraq was viewed as a more immediate danger.

    A large number of Jews remained in Iran, and the Israelis hoped to essentially buy their safety while covert and not-so-covert efforts were undertaken throughout the war to get Iranian Jews out of the country.

    Iraq's support came primarily from the Gulf states, which that viewed Iran as the greater danger to their security. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait each provided billions of dollars in loans and grants. Egypt and Jordan provided some weapons and supplies. The United States, France, and the Soviet Union also sided with the Iraqis.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 02:42 PM — (Reply)

  31. and dugg he created himself...he assassinated his way into power after being released from prison

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/02 @ 12:29 PM — (Reply)

  32. In Halabja alone dugg 5,000 people, including women and children died.

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/02 @ 12:35 PM — (Reply)

  33. In March 1982, the US government officially began engaging Saddam Hussein by removing Iraq from the list of state sponsors of terrorism. The official reason was to recognize Iraq’s improved record, a claim that a Defense Department official later rebutted in stating, “No one had any doubts about [the Iraqis’] continued involvement in terrorism. . . . The real reason was to help them succeed in the war against Iran.” Thus Iraq, no longer on the list of terrorist states subject to highly binding export restrictions on weapon purchases and technology exports, became eligible for US government-financed credits designed to promote the export of US goods. It was presumed that after Iraq began to benefit from and become reliant on US economic linkages, the United States would be able to induce Iraq to behave more in accordance with international norms. Engagement of Saddam’s regime was anchored on the assumption that trade interdependence would be asymmetrical in favor of the United States, and that in turn the United States would be able to shape Iraq’s behavior, using trade as a tool of influence. As a result, in November 1984, after Reagan’s reelection, Washington resumed full diplomatic ties with Baghdad. The contextual setting of the time strongly suggested that such a strategy had an excellent chance of success.

    We all know now that it wasn't. Perhaps you weren't alive yet Dugg I don't know, but it probably seemed the leser of two evils given the fact that the opposition had just held our citizens hostage and taken over our embassy, set up a theocratic regime and generally spat in our face while Carter did nothing.

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/02 @ 01:00 PM — (Reply)

  34. Here's the source for some of that dugg. didn't mean to leave it out.
    While American response to the gassing of the Kurds was weak..in just a little over a year after when Saddam invaded Kuwait the US and it's allies responded in a more appropriate fashion.

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/02 @ 01:14 PM — (Reply)

  35. Did Dugg disappear when faced with factual information that didn't fit his agenda again?

    Comment by Barry G.— 2007/01/02 @ 02:13 PM — (Reply)

  36. Barry, the facts are the CIA set him up and supplied him with biological weapons that he used on his own people.

    I'm not defending him - glad he's dead - yeeha! but at the same time - why'd we make the situation?

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 02:26 PM — (Reply)

  37. dugg the historical context tells you why...the choice was to support someone who had already committed an act of war against us

    Comment by elmers brother— 2007/01/02 @ 02:30 PM — (Reply)

  38. Allright - just seems ironic to me that everyone can easily see him for being a monster but very conveniently forget who put him there and gave him his weapons.

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 02:50 PM — (Reply)

  39. dugg I'm not saying the US did everything right but
    sometimes you make an investment and the investment
    goes bad

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 02:53 PM — (Reply)

  40. I see your logic.
    Why don't we invest in Alaska oil and stop propping up murdering thugs so we can use them?

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 02:58 PM — (Reply)

  41. I'm all for that dugg..now if you could get our politicians and the greenies to do it

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 03:31 PM — (Reply)

  42. There's more oil in Colorado and Utah than the entire middle east -
    http://www.stansberryonline.com/OIL/20060405-OIL-COL.asp?pcode=WOILG428&alias=200604OIL&scode=XPPDW002

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 02:59 PM — (Reply)

  43. I'm all for harvesting as much US oil as possible and driving the camel jockeys out of business. The problem is that everyone is afraid of the treehuggers.

    Comment by Barry G.— 2007/01/02 @ 03:04 PM — (Reply)

  44. It would also drive the warpigs out of buisness and hurt Exxon and the rest -
    They need us to have enemies to keep that weapons industry rolling and the price of a barrel high.

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 03:06 PM — (Reply)

  45. I know about the oil in Utah and Colorado. I'm all for oil
    independence and alternative fuels. Buying oil from
    the Suadi's is like cutting our own throat. They're helping
    to fund the jihadis.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 03:18 PM — (Reply)

  46. you're right barry there's 30 years worth of oil in Alaska

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 03:27 PM — (Reply)

  47. Screw the treehuggers - who runs this place anyway? 99% of the population hates Bush and wants the war to end but do the politicians listen to that? Hell no - but we have to listen to the enviornmentalist whackos at the cost of being dependent on others? I think the treehuggers give them a good excuse to keep thing status quo.

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 03:51 PM — (Reply)

  48. they're a huge lobby dugg. they won't own up to the fact that technology now makes it possible to extract the oil with very little impact on the environment..the ironic part is they use part of your argument, that is that the oil companies are rich enough yet

    AOL and I believe one of the major banks made more money

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2007/01/02 @ 03:54 PM — (Reply)

  49. People like Gorbachev - who only use the topic to further their agendas. They don't really give a crap about the environment.

    Let them camels have their $ - and lets see them jump through an eye of a needle when the time comes.

    Comment by Dugg— 2007/01/02 @ 03:59 PM — (Reply)

  50. The treehuggers hate the President and will do everything they can to keep US oil resources closed. hmmmmmm. Are they in cahoots with the camel jockeys?

    Comment by Barry G.— 2007/01/02 @ 04:41 PM — (Reply)

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